The Trump era wont last for ever But we must do our

first_img Reply | Pick expatinscandinavia Dave Mcmorran I see the rage all around me, but painful emotions can coexist with activism – and millions of Americans are stepping upThe best of 2018: we’re resurfacing some of our top stories of the past year Share on Twitter Last modified on Thu 20 Dec 2018 16.20 EST Share on Facebook 13 Jul 2018 21:50 Share on Twitter Facebook Spaghetti_Western Reply Report Show 3 more replies | Pick Report Trumbledon Share | Pick US immigration Facebook Twitter Reply 13 Jul 2018 22:41 13 Jul 2018 22:14 comment 13 Jul 2018 21:52 Share on Twitter 13 Jul 2018 22:00 Capitalism requires democracy and the rule of law. Socialism and Fascism are against democracy, the rule of law and capitalism. Share on Twitter Twitter I know, its like nothing in else in the world ever happens. To think they used to accuse the right of “banging on about the EU”. Reuse this content,View all comments > Share | Pick More accurately, he became president because he catered to people who have the IQ of a lump of cheese. Trump will only be defeated at the ballot box. The Dems can only beat Trump if they come up with popular, workable policies to address issues of concern to US voters. On the issue of the border/illegal immigrants/etc., simply asserting that we are all human and that no kids should ever be separated from their parents is not in itself a workable policy. Therefore it will not appeal to the majority of Americans who do not share open borders philosophy of the far left. Share Show 25 25 Twitter | Pick 13 Jul 2018 21:42 It was a workable policy until the Current Resident took office. Share on Twitter John Edwin Share on Twitter Share on Facebook viney Report Facebook Facebook Better yet, vote this November for the mid-term elections, send a democrat majority to the house and senate and make this president a lame duck for the next two years. Share on Facebook 20 21 Twitter Reply | Pick Share Facebook WillisFitnurbut Report Share on Facebook 13 Jul 2018 21:58 Facebook The Trump era won’t last for ever. But we must do our part to end it Report IanHislop AlienBodo Please select Personal abuse Off topic Legal issue Trolling Hate speech Offensive/Threatening language Copyright Spam Other Share Reply Share on Pinterest 6 7 14 15 Reply Share Share Twitter Lack of self awareness amongst the protesters is the reason. Twitter The Trump era will end… in about 6 more years. It’s all but guaranteed so long as his opponents keep doubling down on thoroughly bad ideas like identity politics, embracing illegal immigration, and socialism. Share IanHislop 2 13 Jul 2018 21:50 Facebook Share on Twitter 13 Jul 2018 21:51 John Edwin Facebook That is exactly what she is saying here: saying ‘Trump is wrong’ isn’t enough, inspiring and practical alternatives must be presented. Report Trumbledon 123 124 John Edwin Share Reply Facebook Report This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Let’s see….he’s destroying the economy, he’s alienating most of the planet, he’s the most hated world leader on the planet, he’s an ugly, small-minded bigoted racist who has given permission to people to attack and harm anyone who’s not white on the street……. What else? Oh yeah…he hates women (although if you’re a Berniebot that’s no problem for you), hates immigrants…unless they’re white or he’s married to them, and even that’s in doubt, he whines constantly…. Do I need to go on, or are you still going to make excuses? Twitter Twitter | Pick 13 Jul 2018 18:13 Share on Twitter 13 Jul 2018 21:34 IvanBunin77 I don’t think you can judge an entire generation based on what a few people here have said to you. AlienBodo Reply Share 14 Jul 2018 0:16 | Pick 13 Jul 2018 21:34 13 Jul 2018 22:35 Share on Twitter Report Sign in or create your Guardian account to recommend a comment Ghengis Twitter 28 29 I know. It will end with an election defeat. Not if the Democrats don’t get their act together for 2018 and 2020. The Trump era could very well end after a second term in 2024. Stranger things have happened. Trump administration 40 41 Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter | Pick Twitter What a pity that Owen Jones is speaking at the demo. He is about as rational as Trump and will alienate many moderate people who support neither Trump nor Brexit. Yet more evidence that the nutters are taking over. At least you are conceding that Trump is a one term president, at best. That’s something to hold on to but I’m hoping that Trump’s era ends without an electoral defeat. GoshKate Report expanded Share on Facebook Probably the same people. 4 Facebook | Pick Share Reply Share on Twitter David Ostler 69 70 13 Jul 2018 21:54 I think not. Although Americans don’t always like the way Trump tweets – his actions are bigger than his words, and most Americans like what he is doing for the US. That’s a fact jack. He’s like a Truman and Eisenhower rolled into one person – salty but stable. Share on Twitter Twitter | Pick Share on Twitter 12 13 Share on Twitter All five of them. Report Share Twitter John Edwin Share on Twitter 43 44 Aunt Messy 1 Share ACMILAN7CL John Edwin Share on Twitter Twitter Twitter Share on Facebook Report Report expatinscandinavia Share Share Reply Share Share on Facebook Facebook Facebook Share on Facebook Report cicazz Report The Trump era will not last forever. Facebook 51 52 13 Jul 2018 21:59 Share Reply Share Aunt Messy Share on Twitter Share on Twitter | Pick Theengineer30 Twitter 13 Jul 2018 21:45 13 Jul 2018 22:31 The best way to get rid of Trump is not by launching blimps or trying to impeach him , but by making sure there is a decent, credible candidate facing him in the next general election. Share cicazz Report Report 13 Jul 2018 21:59 Report Twitter Report JonnyHughes5000 | Pick Extraordinary drivelAttempting to conflate Stalin’s mass-murdering, totalitarian regime with Trump’s democratically elected tenure as President is just nonsense, and historically ignorant nonsense at thatOf course the Trump era won’t last for ever. He’s only allowed to serve two terms, so why the hysteria? If he’s as bad as you allege than surely he won’t be elected to serve that second term? But I wouldn’t bet on that Rebecca, if I were you. Share Share on Facebook 3 4 Close report comment form 24 25 Share on Facebook | Pick Report AlienBodo Share via Email 13 14 13 Jul 2018 22:17 alexanderhenry Reply slimcognito that is why hillary will run again because the dems have no credible candidate.. You won’t win power back by being nothing more than a reaction to Trump. | Pick Share on Facebook Share on Facebook rooftile 13 Jul 2018 21:40 Share on Facebook 69 70 2 3 Share on Facebook As a comparison it is beyond pathetic: a shameless attempt at grief-thievery by someone who is clearly over-pampered. I would humbly invite the author to tone down the outrage and right-on indignation and to consider how Trump won the election or, more accurately, how the Democrats contrived to lose it. Come up with some concrete policies (outrage is not a policy), above all vis-à-vis illegal immigration, find a candidate who can reach out to the swing states and this oozing pustule of president will be voted out soon enough. 13 Jul 2018 21:46 The best way to get rid of trump is simply to laugh at him. Share Facebook | Pick ACMILAN7CL | Pick Twitter Share on Twitter Report Report Share on Twitter 13 Jul 2018 21:41 This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Report Reply Topics I keep the newspaper clipping inside a Milan Kundera novel: it shows demonstrators in Prague in 1989, one of them carrying a badly chipped bust of Stalin around whose neck hangs a placard that says nic netrvá věčně: nothing lasts forever. It’s not a war cry, nor a prophesy, but a bald statement of fact at the moment when the Soviet bloc Stalin had been critical in establishing was falling apart and Czechoslovakia was liberating itself.It must have seemed like forever to those who lived under totalitarianism until all of a sudden “forever” crashed and burned. People worked to make it so at terrible risk; some were imprisoned, or otherwise punished. Some died. They worked without knowledge of how and when their efforts might matter, and the faith that drove those activists is still stunning to contemplate. I think of that history when I think of our present predicament in the United States. I know a lot of us have rage fatigue and moral exhaustion from a little over a year and a half of the hell of Donald Trump’s ascendancy. I know that seeing the vulnerable crushed, and the sabotage of the things that we fought for from reproductive rights to climate policies, and in particular the recent efforts to destroy small children weighs on most of us. I see and hear the dismay all around me at what is happening to this country, but dismay and devastation are emotions, and painful emotions can coexist with active strategies. Active strategies may be the best response to those emotions, not to take care of oneself but to forget oneself in responding to the larger crises. Slaves were devastated by slavery; Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman and Sojourner Truth were not felled by that devastation but driven to act by it, and they did not confuse their devastation for despair. Americans like quick results and predictable outcomes, and in pursuit of those things squeeze out room for the unknown and the unknowable. Despair is an analysis of sorts, a conclusion that nothing can be done; it is usually premature. Reply Share on Facebook Thomas1178 | Pick Share on Twitter Reply 13 Jul 2018 21:50 Show 3 more replies Peter Ogilvey Report 13 Jul 2018 21:40 Share on Twitter Realityforme Facebook | Pick And the Trump brand ties, and suits, and… Especially if HRC, the second worst candidate ever, stands again. Share on Twitter Share on Facebook | Pick the left in the us and around the world have been driven nuts by donald trump well done mr president well done !! 95 96 Share on Facebook 0 1 Share on Facebook Report Reply Share Share trump became president because the american people were weary of obama the republicans and the democratic party…. Report Twitter Share on Facebook Report 13 Jul 2018 21:53 13 Jul 2018 21:48 Share That US citizens are finally waking up is the one encouraging aspect in this while mess. I just fear that it is too late. Not as long as the Republicans don’t wake up and do their damn job instead of betraying the country on a daily basis. hahaVery good Share on Twitter Share | Pick Facebook Report Twitter Share on Messenger Share on Facebook Thomas1178 Share on Twitter Share Report Since all squid are damp and since their populations are now undergoing an explosive increase, I guess that means massive protests are taking place. After first going to a Fulham home game, of course. Share on Twitter Facebook Share on Facebook Trumbledon Share on Twitter Twitter | Pick Threads collapsed Reply Share on Twitter Twitter Share on Facebook | Pick 13 Jul 2018 21:48 | Pick Share on Facebook ComeOnYouBaggies 28 29 fuckregistration 100 Facebook Ghengis David Ostler 13 Jul 2018 21:57 Share Facebook Twitter Share Share on Facebook Report Share on Twitter Twitter Report Share Twitter It’ll be all done and dusted in two years. Partially by a process known as democarcy, but mainly by the efforts of self-important British activists. Report describing the “regime” in the US as “hell” is a striking statement from someone calling themselves a historian….for a more appropriate use of the word, try reading “A problem from hell” by Samantha Power, compare and contrast with the trump regime. Not convinced this sort of hyperbole benefits anyone except, perhaps, the orange god. Reply fordprefect100 Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Share on Facebook 50 Reply | Pick Share on Twitter Theengineer30 Twitter 13 Jul 2018 22:47 Report Twitter Report Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Twitter Facebook 12 13 Report Share on Facebook cicazz ranelagh75 6 7 13 Jul 2018 22:17 Facebook Share Share on Facebook | Pick 43 44 blah blah, show me Democrats in the house or senate who support open borders. Wait, there’s nobody? There you go. and why is not separating parents from their children not a workable policy? It was the workable policy up to this year. | Pick dirtyden Probably because it’s news? ACMILAN7CL Show 2 more replies Share Twitter Twitter | Pick | Pick Share Facebook Reply Report Facebook | Pick Share on Twitter Report | Pick Reply This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. londonindian Share on Twitter Facebook Share on Twitter Share 2 3 GoshKate | Pick 13 Jul 2018 21:44 Share Reply 13 Jul 2018 21:55 Opinion | Pick | Pick Report 13 Jul 2018 21:46 Adolph and Benito must be your heroes too. Share 20 21 Twitter 13 Jul 2018 21:49 24 25 Reply US immigration 7 8 Twitter Facebook brntsmth 4 5 Share Report 13 Jul 2018 21:38 I wish you were right. I’m afraid, based on Trumps popularity at the polls, that Americans have yet to fully wake up. Share on Twitter 3 4 I love that the people who spent 8 years calling Obama an illegitimate president now insist that everyone should respect the “free democratic vote”. Do as I say, not as I do writ large. | Pick 19 20 Reply Sorry there was an error. Please try again later. If the problem persists, please contact Userhelp Reason (optional) Report Share on Facebook Share Share Reply Show 3 more replies 6 7 ‘People are ready. They are ready for someone, something, to pull the alarm so that they can step it up. They are where my hope resides now.’Photograph: Eugene Garcia/EPA Peter Ogilvey 13 Jul 2018 21:50 ACMILAN7CL Share on Facebook these would be the same polls that indicated that Hillary was going to win and Brexit wasn’t going to pass? It boggles my mind that people’s faith in polling survived 2016. Surely the lesson of that year was to ignore polls, get off your butt and vote! Share 29 30 | Pick Show 7 more replies How it will end we do not know Twitter Dave Mcmorran | Pick Reply John Edwin Share on Facebook 13 Jul 2018 22:08 Fri 13 Jul 2018 06.00 EDT 23 24 Read more Share Rob Innes 28 29 Realityforme Share on Twitter Remind me where are those maga hats manufactured… Share on Twitter Share Reply | Pick Report Looks like the protest in London has been a damp squid. More people go to Fulham home games, then this turnout. Opinion Share on Facebook If you don’t like Trump, you can vote against him in 2020 (if he stands) and in the meantime you can defend democracy by respecting the free democratic vote that brought him to power. Twitter Show 10 more replies Twitter Yeah, something, something, those Asians sweatshops. Sent from my iPhone Reply a little over a year and a half of the hell of Donald Trump’s ascendancy 4 IanHislop Show 3 more replies AlienBodo | Pick Share on Twitter 7 8 Share 13 Jul 2018 22:09center_img Twitter Facebook Facebook Report Shares4,2814281 Reply Share on Twitter Dave Mcmorran Twitter Facebook If Hillary runs again trump will win again…They need to find an alternative to Hillary Report We have talked about resistance a great deal these past 18 months or so, but I want to talk about opposition for a moment. You oppose a regime by standing up to it, but also by being its opposite. Reply ranelagh75 JonnyHughes5000 Facebook Thomas1178 Share on Twitter Report Twitter | Pick Report 28 29 | Pick ThumbSprain Ah, the politics of spite. Right wingers would let Trump shit in their mouths if it meant liberals would have to smell it. Facebook Share on Facebook | Pick If Trump goes out ans says rape is bad, then you become pro-rape? JonnyHughes5000 | Pick Facebook MelindaPrice | Pick This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Elsewhere, in ‘Friday’s Top Photos’, thank you Guardian for the close -up of Trump’s small hand. Are his fingernails really that unbelievably unkempt? What does that say about the worlds top dignitary? Reply 13 Jul 2018 21:46 13 Jul 2018 18:11 Thomas1178 Twitter Ghengis | Pick Share 13 Jul 2018 21:52 MelindaPrice Twitter | Pick That doesn’t mean respecting him… | Pick Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Facebook Share on Facebook Report that manicurists are terrified he’s going to grab them by the pussy? kumquat Twitter I know. It will end with an election defeat. Order by oldest 69 70 Share on Facebook Share Share on Facebook Facebook Report Report Share He’s only been in for 18 months … I think the comparisons with Stalin are a bit fanciful right now. When he usurps the constitution and does a Putin, then we can moan BTL from afar and make as many placards as are needed. ComeOnYouBaggies Reply Email (optional) Twitter Facebook 13 14 Report Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Twitter tumbleweeds305 Facebook | Pick Hippocritamus 80 81 13 Jul 2018 21:45 28 29 viney Facebook Report Twitter Share on Twitter Report Show 9 more replies Share on Twitter If I thought that Trump would be replaced by somebody better, I would protest. But actually, I have considerably more to protest about in Britain. Brexit is going to be an expensive shambles. May’s latest plan is embarrassing. The NHS is withering away despite the very best efforts of its understrength staff. State education cannot attract teachers who possess qualifications in the mainstream subjects that they are asked to teach, with predictable shortcomings for their pupils. All our military services are failing to recruit sufficient numbers. The list goes on and on. The only thing we are not short of is politicians intent on promoting their own careers at the expense of the country. Trump is merely a distraction, no doubt secretly welcomed by May et al, who know it gives them breathing space that they do not deserve. Only those who have no interest in Britain will concern themselves with Trump. GoshKate cicazz | Pick comments (297)Sign in or create your Guardian account to join the discussion. | Pick Share Reply Share on Facebook Reply | Pick Report Facebook Report 13 Jul 2018 22:18 | Pick 13 Jul 2018 21:41 Hippocritamus Share on WhatsApp 13 Jul 2018 22:38 Reply Reply Share via Email PortalooMassacre Funny you say that, because it seems to me people have remarkable flexibility in the view they support, depending on whose view they think it is. I guaruntee you I could go out to that crowd today and read out a load of OBama policies to the crowd, and they would condemn them all if I simply said they were Trump’s. The same in reverse. Politics has become a cult, not a rational choice. Twitter Share 13 Jul 2018 21:57 Facebook Share on Twitter expatinscandinavia Share Reply StonerKommentariat Is that you Ian ? 2 3 Facebook Share on Facebook Theengineer30 Report 27 28 But what if Trump is the symptom rather than the disease? And what if the cure isn’t as simple as just waiting for another president to arrive? What if our obsession with Donald Trump’s grotesque personality and his contempt for the accustomed norms of political discourse is merely a distraction from a real crisis facing America’s faltering experiment with capitalist imperialism and liberal democracy? 44 45 Share on Facebook Share Report Show 4 more replies 39 40 13 Jul 2018 21:48 Report Twitter Facebook Share Share on Twitter WillisFitnurbut Loading comments… Trouble loading? pshelleyg Share 13 Jul 2018 21:51 | Pick Share I realise that this can’t possibly have crossed your mind but perhaps Trump’s popularity at the polls suggest that it’s the electorate who are fully awake and that it’s you who isn’t? A year ago it did not seem likely that Mexico would elect a left-wing president and sweep into power hundreds of progressive candidates, many of them women, but that happened on the first day of this month; with that clean sweep the country may have rewritten what for many years seemed to be a grim destiny. Most countries on earth have survived nightmare regimes: South Africa, Czechoslovakia, Argentina come to mind. They ended for many reasons, but they ended in part because people did not regard the regime’s power as infinite, eternal, inevitable; they resisted even when resistance was dangerous and victory seemed impossibly remote. We are not in such an era, though many fear we are close. Some among us are losing their rights—ICE is going after naturalized citizens and the atmosphere of intolerance is encouraging a terrible rise in hate crimes and harrassment nationwide. At this point each week seems bleaker than the ones before, and a great many people worry that we are gradually adjusting to a loss of rights and rule of law. But there are two forces at work now. There’s that of Trump, who won a minority victory in a corrupted election and works to represent the wishes and feed the rages of a minority of Americans, the authoritarians, racists, and misogynists. They have, for now, a grip on power in some ways, but the multiethnic majority is the future of this country anyway, and it is coming into being in many ways. There’s a city outside Atlanta where every person at the head of the justice system—the head of police, the chief judge, the city prosecutor and public defender—are black women. In Richmond, California, the sheriff has cancelled the city’s contract with ICE after a huge protest. In Texas, the organization Raices has been given so many donations it suddenly has the wherewithal to offer $20m to bail out all the immigrant mothers in detention, which it did this week. In New York City, a progressive young woman of color just defeated a middle-of-the-road incumbent in one of dozens of races over the past year in which the more liberal-to-left candidates—often trans, women, and nonwhite candidates—won. Another America is emerging, and sometimes the Trump administration seems like nothing more than an effort to dam a river that will be, in the long run, unstoppable.We have talked about resistance a great deal these past 18 months or so, but I want to talk about opposition for a moment. You oppose a regime by standing up to it, but also by being its opposite. For this regime that means being compassionate and inclusive where they are vicious and exclusionary. It means being committed to precision and accuracy when they are sloppy with the truth and the facts or at war with them. It means preserving memory, both of how things are changing in the present, and the longterm memory of how many people before us have opposed and resisted and won, of this country’s histories of both heroes and of racism from the anti-Chinese riots of the nineteenth century to the mobs of Klansmen in the twentieth. The United States has an abundance of those heroes in the past and some in the present. John Lewis, who is one of those heroes, said recently “Do not get lost in a sea of despair. Be hopeful, be optimistic. Our struggle is not the struggle of a day, a week, a month, or a year, it is the struggle of a lifetime. Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get in good trouble, necessary trouble.” The Trump era will not last forever. How it will end we do not know, because how and when it ends is in part in our hands. Waiting for it to end is not a strategy. Working for it to end is, and in the meantime preserving what we can of the rule of law, the rights of everyone in this country whatever their immigration status, the environment, the institutions that benefit us from public schools to scientific projects. And more than protecting what we had, building what we lacked: I believe Trump came to power because people were indifferent and inattentive. Quite a lot of people are now neither. If they were dozing, they are now wide-awake; if they were indifferent, they are now passionately engaged. In organizing, in working on electoral campaigns, in standing up for what they believe in. Millions of people have found that justice and truth and human rights are key to their own lives, even when they themselves are not directly menaced; millions have found that they care passionately about public life and public institutions; millions have stood up to make this an era that is truly unprecedented in the level of activism, in both sheer numbers and in the geographical scope of this engagement, from small towns in all fifty states to major cities. People are ready. They are ready for someone, something, to pull the alarm so that they can step it up. They are where my hope resides now. Rebecca Solnit is a freelance writer. She is the author of Men Explain Things to Me Share Share on Facebook Share on Twitter 38 39 alexanderhenry Hippocritamus LewisFord Facebook 13 Jul 2018 22:07 Theengineer30 Reply Reply pshelleyg Dave Mcmorran 45 46 Share on Twitter 132 133 Twitter Report cicazz 0 1 All Share Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Twitter Share on Twitter Report Show 4 more replies 13 Jul 2018 21:50 Share 65 66 Report Reply Share on Twitter Facebook Share on Facebook Share on Facebook | Pick Bjerkley | Pick Share on Facebook Share on Twitter | Pick Reply Facebook Share swanpride Reply What’s worrying is that a whole generation of young people is in the process of normalising McCarthyism. Every time something goes wrong in their world, there’s an immediate clamour to blame it on Russian meddling. People who challenge their worldview are “Russian bots” or “Putin shills” – I’ve been accused on numerous occasions of working in a St Petersburg troll factory. If this is the future of political discourse then we’re in a lot of trouble, because while Trump will be out of office before too long, but the paranoid generation who’ve been raised on a diet of neo-McCarthyism will be with us for decades. Twitter This is silly. Clearly, opposition is only required on issues that you truly oppose. Show 1 more reply Share on Twitter Report Bjerkley Facebook 13 Jul 2018 21:54 Twitter JeremyinOz Twitter Share on Twitter collapsed Share Share on Twitter Twitter Report 56 57 5 6 Share on Twitter Reply Reply That’s not what I’m doing. I’ve cited my own experiences as a personal example of a wider phenomenon – and it is a phenomenon, accusing someone of being a Russian troll is now a standard response to someone who backs Brexit, supports Trump or opposes the Al Qaeda takeover of parts of Syria. There’s this pervading assumption that Russia is out there manipulating the agenda, pushing fake news and rigging elections; increasingly Russian influence is suspected to be behind any event which runs contrary to the liberal consensus, or any person who takes a different view – reds under the bed – it is virtually indistinguishable from McCarthyism. Lest we forget, Joseph McCarthy was a thundering tosser and a bully whose methods have been rightly compared to witch hunting. Report Report Share on Twitter 13 Jul 2018 21:40 Share on Facebook 1 Facebook PortalooMassacre Share on Twitter 9 10 He did not win in absolute number of votes. Show 8 more replies Facebook Comments 297 Reply | Pick The Trump era is one thing, but the Trump approach to the presidency is surely going to have a lasting effect. Every day, a new story line, but there are also story arcs and byzantine plots that bridge back to the very beginning of his run. Trade posturing, immigration, shedding the world’s policeman vibe – whatever replaces him has to build on his lead. Share on Twitter Report Support The Guardian 13 Jul 2018 21:41 13 Jul 2018 22:29 Share on Facebook James Callaghan 13 Jul 2018 21:35 Report Share on Facebook Report | Pick Share | Pick | Pick Twitter Manslaughter, not murder. But I agree with your point. Share on LinkedIn 32 33 20 21 Twitter Reply Share on Facebook Reply 10 11 Share on Twitter Facebook ThumbSprain trump become presidents because a significant part of the american people are racists. Show 1 more reply Tintenfische Facebook Reply Share on Facebook Theengineer30 13 Jul 2018 22:14 Reply swanpride Twitter OhIAmSuchASadGit Share on Twitter oldest | Pick Maybe they should protest at the murder of a British woman on British soil by a rogue state. Totally bizarre that they choose this target for their liberal angst instead. The address, if it helps:6/7 Kensington Palace Gardens, Kensington, London W8 4QP Trumbledon tumbleweeds305 13 Jul 2018 22:19 17 18 | Pick Reply JonnyHughes5000 Share on Twitter Reply 13 14 Since you’re here… 13 Jul 2018 21:51 Report 24 25 alexanderhenry Share on Facebook Facebook The latest major Trump resignations and firings | Pick Report Facebook Facebook Share on Twitter Realityforme Excellent comment. 2 pshelleyg Not a fan of trump or brexit but this newspaper never shuts up about both these topics 55 56 44 45 Reply Share on Facebook 13 Jul 2018 22:09 Reply Facebook | Pick Report Reply Report Share Share Facebook Reply 13 Jul 2018 21:52 Share unthreaded I fucking love Trump. He’s the grand disruptor- takes zero shit and shakes up the career politician eurotwats from their comfortable torpor. Long may he reign. John Edwin “The Trump era will not last forever. How it will end we do not know, because how and when it ends is in part in our hands.” Fear not, because people in London are planning to bang some pots and pans together today, so the fall of the Trump administration is imminent! Share on Facebook 28 29 Share on Facebook Share Theengineer30 Twitter 1 2 Twitter recommendations Share on Facebook 13 Jul 2018 23:18 Facebook Reply Twitter Reply Twitter Share on Facebook No it won’t, but it will probably outlast you. 13 Jul 2018 22:27 Facebook Twitter Share on Twitter Reply Facebook Share on Facebook Share on Facebook PortalooMassacre US politics Share on Twitter Twitter Share on Twitter | Pick 13 Jul 2018 22:04 Donald Trump Share on Facebook Share Realityforme Facebook Twitter 8 9 | Pick Share Twitter AlienBodo Twitter 10 11 TomBrady3367 Reply Facebook Share Share on Facebook Share Facebook There’s no ‘perhaps’ about it. Histrionic hyperbole is his oxygen and just feeds the beast. Report Share on Facebook Reply Share 25 26 inspiring and practical alternatives must be presented. Share on Facebook AlienBodo 19 20 13 Jul 2018 22:51 John Edwin 9 10 chrisluton 13 Jul 2018 21:51 14 15 Reply 13 Jul 2018 22:18 50 51 Reply Share on Facebook Twitter | Pick Facebook Share on Facebook Twitter Facebook Share on Facebook 77 78 13 Jul 2018 22:04 Share Twitter | Pick Reply Reply 13 Jul 2018 21:59 Facebook Report Twitter Twitter Report viney Twitter Twitter newest Reply Dave Mcmorran That rogue state just sent one of its assets on an official visit… 13 Jul 2018 21:39 … we have a small favour to ask. The Guardian will engage with the most critical issues of our time – from the escalating climate catastrophe to widespread inequality to the influence of big tech on our lives. 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Every reader contribution, big or small, is so valuable. Support The Guardian from as little as $1 – and it only takes a minute. Thank you. | Pick 19 20 Share on Facebook 13 Jul 2018 21:50 If Trump goes out ans says rape is bad, then you become pro-rape? Obviously this reductio ad absurdum is far-fetched but you do see a certain brand of tribal liberal thinking that is just automatically against anything. Until Kneejerk cult of the antihero. You won’t win power back by being nothing more than a reaction to Trump. Democrats have been cynically importing votes via immigration, and then think calling all the people who disagree with this policy ‘racist’ is going to win them votes? To get Trump out you will need to get some policies that address the concerns he has addressed in the flyover states, or they’ll win it via the electoral college again easily next time around. You also need to keep toxic Clintons well away from the entire thing. Bill betrayed the flyover states and that (not racism or misogyny) is a clear reason for her underperformance in key battlegrounds. 6 7 Reply Reply Share Share on Facebook 3 Facebook Share on Twitter Ah c’mon, as long as the protesters are buying from Asian sweatshops exploiting women and kids to wreck the planet our system will throw up Trumps for ever more and you are too naive to see the truth of it to stop buying from the Asian sweatshops before another western lie runs into a reality it has no control over once the lie gets out of hand…. ….and the only people who can stop it are the ones telling themselves the lie. What usually happens when this reaches a tipping point is the culture indulging in it falls as it tells itself it is the culture that will buck the trend. The Asian sweatshops workers you have all forgotten about will soon make your moaning moot and then we will talk and see where we are 🙂 | Pick Facebook 11 12 Reply Theengineer30 13 Jul 2018 22:21 Facebook Facebook Peter Ogilvey Share on Twitter Rebecca Solnit It is very, very distinguishable from McCarthyism, but nice hyperbolic rhetoric. Facebook | Pick Reply tumbleweeds305 Twitter Reply kumquat Facebook Share on Facebook This is silly. Clearly, opposition is only required on issues that you truly oppose. Share on Twitter Yeah, I’m sure you’re not… Share on Twitter 13 Jul 2018 22:12 CJFarrelly Reply yes, I understand that everybody planning to attend the protest voted on who is going to speak, and therefore it’s a direct reflection of who will be there. Twitter Twitter 3 Well it’s been two years and I’ve seen very little in the way of that. Same old ideas that lost the election and any disagreement is dismissed as racism or hatred or something reductive and divisive. 13 Jul 2018 22:21 viney Dave Mcmorran Share Facebook 13 Jul 2018 21:46 Share View more commentslast_img read more